Thursday, December 16, 2021

Letters, 2015, Clashes with Republican Letter Writers, July 28, August 19, November 20

 

The zealot ex-chair and his wife had moved out of state by the time I started writing letters in 2015. My first was in May. It supported the re-election of my friend Nancy Rickard to the Port of Siuslaw Board of Supervisors. I then wrote this brief letter to the Eugene Register-Guard.

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As evidenced by his recent column in this newspaper’s commentary section July 24 regarding the starvation of women and children in the South Sudan, Nicholas Kristof is a remarkably compassionate American. On the other end of the human spectrum are presidential hopefuls Scott Walker and Ted Cruz.

        Printed July 28, 2015, in the Eugene Register-Guard

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Two letters written by Florence Republicans got me going locally. First was Boomer Wright’s letter. He was upset that the Obama administration had negotiated an agreement with Iran to stop its development of nuclear weapons.

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I appreciate reading the thought-provoking and well-supported letter titled “Gamble Worth Taking” (Aug. 5). God bless America and free speech! If we were down at Three Rivers Casino playing “Texas Hold‘em,” I might agree that that is a gamble well worth taking. However, I believe we should call this treaty what it is: appeasement.

The gamble here concerns appeasing a radical Muslim theocracy that has professed in more than “scurrilous profanity” that they hate America, have called for a Jihad against America and have threatened Israel and its people with extermination.

Iran is recognized by our state department as a main contributor and supporter of terrorism around the world. What happened to the administration’s stand on not negotiating with terrorists? Are we betting on the age demise of the hardliners Mullahs (there are no young hardliner Mullahs to take their place?), the threat of mutual self-destruction, the good will of moderate Iranians (the term “moderate Iranians” might be a bit of an oxymoron), and on the Koran’s commandment to love thy infidel neighbor?

Are we gambling that Iran will not make or use the bomb they profess the right to create and have threatened to use against Israel and America because they have a paper treaty with the Great Satan? If we are to believe what our present administration says about our foreign policy, why don’t we believe what Iran has and is saying about their foreign policy?

Their words and actions have been very clear. I think the well publicized Iranian state-supported rallies where hard-liner Mullahs preach hatred toward everyone and everything not of their religion, then encourage mobs of people to carry “I hate American” signs and then burn our flag message seems pretty clear.

Is appeasement the best we can do?

        Boomer Wright

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Jimmie Moe was upset about Democrats, abortion, and Planned Parenthood.

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Abortion on demand is the law of the land. So why all the fuss over body parts of Americans that did not quite make it to that first breath?

Abortions came into vogue during the 1920s, when a woman, Margaret Sanger, started the movement in our country to eliminate or reduce the number of less-advantaged children being born in America. Eventually, she was shunned by society for her beliefs of and in a pure race.

In the modernization of America some time after World War II, her ideas were given new berth, and in Roe v. Wade, her dreams became a reality.

So many individuals of color are being denied life that eventually the race will be reduced to be inconsequential in the scheme of life in America. In some of the latest stats available, twice as many African Americans are denied life through abortions as compared to all other means (murder, accidents, etc.).

So, is this a liberal cause or just women’s rights? How did someone so lacking of compassion and so biased become the heroine of today’s liberals? I ask this because individuals like Nancy Pelosi in 2014 and Hillary Clinton in 2009 are both recent recipients of the “Margaret Sanger Award” for their contributions to her cause. In their acceptance speeches, they both praised Sanger’s coverage and devotion.

Today, the liberals, through slick media campaigning and effective slogans, make Planned Parenthood into a compassionate and caring alternative to childbirth. Is this really the easiest solution for some of our economic problems?

        Jimmie L. Moe

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I had to respond.

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Praise be that we don’t have August 15 Siuslaw News letter writers Boomer Wright and Jimmie L. Moe running our country.

Boomer declares the administration’s proposed nuclear arms deal with Iran to be appeasement. The Iranians are such awful people. We intrepid Americans are so antiseptically pure. (When in mankind’s history was any large group of people such?) It’s either them or us. Bomb the tar out of them. That’s the ticket!

Jimmie believes that men such as he know better about women’s reproductive practices than women. The straw-person in his attack on Planned Parenthood is the organization’s founder, Margaret Sanger. Jimmie alleges that Sanger “started the movement in our country to eliminate or reduce the number of less-advantaged children being born in America. … Twice as many African Americans are denied life through abortions as compared to all other means (murder, accidents, etc.)” because “the latest stats” show it. Whose stats? Jimmie’s final hammer blow of condemnation is his statement that Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi have “praised Sanger’s courage and devotion.” Jimmie has paraphrased comments made by the crazy-minded neurosurgeon and GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson.

NPR posted August 14 on the internet a fact-check article about Carson’s allegation that Planned Parenthood (PP) was started to “control the black population.” Sanger believed that people regardless of race should have the children they want. Her focus was on birth control. In 1921 she wrote: “The almost universal demand for practical education in Birth Control is one of the most hopeful signs that the masses themselves today possess the divine spark of regeneration.” It was Sanger’s support of birth control that motivated her in 1946 to write: “Negro parents, like all parents, must create the next generation from strength, not from weakness; from health, not from despair."

Carson has said, “One of the reasons you find most of their [PP] clinics in black neighborhoods is so that you can find a way to control that population.” In 2014, the Guttmacher Institute revealed that 60 percent of all known abortion providers, including Planned Parenthood clinics, are in majority-white neighborhoods. In 2013 Planned Parenthood stated that “14 percent of its patients nationwide were black … nearly equal to the proportion of the African-American population in the U.S.”

But, then, I am a liberal. Jimmie knows. “Liberals, through slick media campaigning and effective slogans, make Planned Parenthood into a compassionate and caring alternative to childbirth.”

        Printed August 19, 2015, in the Siuslaw News

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By now I was ready to attack first, not just respond.

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Whenever I read letters in the Register-Guard written by ultra conservatives condemning liberals and pleading victimization, I am tempted to ask them these questions:

Have you no concern about global warming and regard for your children’s and grandchildren’s future?

How would you like conservatives to be deprived of the right to vote like college students, minorities, and the elderly – disproportionately Democratic Party voters – are, being systematically deprived by state voter-identification and voter registration restriction laws?

Since when did millions of dollars contributed to political campaigns by single, very wealthy individuals become a hallmark of “the greatest democracy in the world”?

Why is it good to be on the side of large corporations that have kept the wages of their workers stagnant for decades while the income of their CEOs increases from 20 times the average income of their work force to 300 times?

When did Fox News become the citadel of truth and “all major media commentators” become, in the words of Keith O. Comstock (letters, Nov. 16) “far-left Democratic sycophants”?

Why do you suppose that institutions of higher learning -- in which highly educated instructors teach and which ultra conservative critics like Francie Duggan (letters, Nov. 16) accuse of sanctioning “radical leftist indoctrination” – don’t regurgitate the current Republican Party’s anti-equal opportunity, pro-virulent capitalistic, anti-social, anti-women, anti-science, and anti-civil rights doctrine?

        Printed November 20, 2015, in the Register-Guard

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The following are two of 31 Register-Guard website comments that followed the printing of my Nov. 20 letter. The first commentator sought to answer my questions.

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1. If global warming was REAL, yes, I would be concerned.

2. No, I would not like to be deprived of my voting right. However, no one is being asked to cr@p diamonds in order to legitimize our democratic voting process. A simple, easily obtained, inexpensive, government issued photo ID will suffice. That's all.

3. One recent date comes to mind; January 2010, when a democratic process set in motion by voters (who likely had ID) concluded with the SCOTUS deciding that a business had personhood. This might only illustrate that the playing field is even, no matter which side you're on, which, I understand really isn't your point, but it does ensure its fair.

4. No one is on the side of the companies CEO's, we're advocating for capitalism. Capitalism can create scenarios, such as you've described, but it can also turn a determined, single mother into a small business owner who makes a name and place for herself. I like that side!

5. This happened around the time Obama became president and we witnessed the great migration of all media, except FOX, to his backside.

6. If said ultra-conservative comments were actually being made, which they are not, these institutions and their staff would not regurgitate those comments simply because it doesn't fit their agenda. Besides, they have a busy schedule convincing everyone to continue sucking on the government teat, while crying victim from a safe zone.

Mmmmmmkay?!

        ChiefJustice101

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Here is the second message.


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The problem that Mr. Titus either doesn't understand (like most ultra leftwing democrats) or doesn't believe is that the market for successful CEO's is different than the labor market for front line production grunts. The influx of illegal aliens has killed wages on the low end of the scale ...thank you prog dems. but since none of these illegal aliens are cut from the same cloth as the ceo's their wages continue to rise based upon the results they have gotten vs some govt edict

        JdunthropeMD



Sunday, December 12, 2021

Letters, 2014, Mostly Silent, January 11; February 2, 3, 4, 24; September 24

 

I returned to the Florence Area Democratic Club in January. The new chair was a friend. Last year’s chair had stepped down. I wrote three letters during the year. The first one, written in January, was a response to three letters printed in the local paper.

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Several interesting letters appeared in the Jan. 6 edition of the Siuslaw News.

Jenny Velinty [a FADC member] deplored observing in 2013 “a fast-spreading contagion with no antidote, no cure and no remorse” -- hate. She advised: “Learn all about an issue before voicing an opinion based on rumor and false facts.”

Tony Cavarno regurgitated lies about Benghazi, “Fast and Furious,” and the IRA investigations of Tea Party groups that Fox News repeatedly states as fact. Anything to attack the President.

George Goldstein fulminated that the Florence Area Democratic Party (FADC) and State Representative Caddy McKeown have co-conspired to deprive local non-Democrats the opportunity this Saturday (today) to hear her speak. “She apparently thinks that she only represents select Democrats and doesn’t want people to know what is going on in the legislature or to listen to them.”

In her editor’s note Theresa Baer explained the reason for the meeting’s different location. She clarified that the public is invited (FADC meetings are always open to the public), and informed that the FADC business will follow Rep. Mckeown’s presentation. Anybody may leave the meeting at any time.

I was Chair of the FADC, minus five months, from 2007 through 2012. We sponsored many town halls at which our elected Democratic state legislators spoke and took questions from their constituents. Occasionally, we invited these legislators to attend our club meetings. Why? We liked them, they were interested in what we were doing; we enjoyed their input. The get-togethers were as much social and informational. Non-members could attend these meetings; they were not excluded. Saturday’s meeting is that kind of meeting. It is not a town hall. It was never advertised to be a town hall. (Not every appearance by a public official here in Florence needs to be a town hall!) It is to be a quick (one hour, probably) stop by Rep. McKeown to say hello, say a few things, and answer several questions on her way to an actual town hall in Yachats. Rep. McKeown holds town halls. She had one in Florence last April. Expect another here soon.

        Printed January 11, 2014, in the Siuslaw News

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Our new chair emailed club members an article about the Trans-Pacific Partnership bill that President Obama favored and that many Democrats did not. He received back a number of messages. I recorded those comments that addressed whether the FADC should become an issue focused advocacy pressure group. I have not included names in most instances because the emails were private messages, not intended for public perusal.

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from the Wife of the Zealot Ex-Chair to Another Club Member February 2, 2014

The TPP is clearly a travesty. Time to pull our heads out of the sand.

How do we get back on track? Not by being submissive and crawling back into our 'boxes' thereby allowing elected leadership to dictate. We elect people to represent us, we pay their salaries ~ they need to work for us. Grassroots action comes from outrage ~ not 'political convenience' to elected officials.

From Arnie Roblan’s Head Staff Member to the Current Chair February 2, 2014

Thank you .... My hope is that folks will not use the email forum to send their unnecessary spew in the hope of trying to convince us that Democrats need to have a monolithic voice. I certainly do not vote for an individual to represent all my views.

From Harold Titus to the Chair and Club Members February 2, 2014

The last thing I want our club to be is a pressure group. It has been primarily an organization created to support Democratic Party candidates for public office. It has been an organization that seeks to educate itself about issues – national, state, and local – that it deems important. It has done public service work. It has not been an organization that publicly states: ”The FADC supports ...” (this, that, etc.) Individual members have acted publicly in defense of or in opposition to various political actions and viewpoints. It is not that we members have been timid, quiescent. (I’ve had over 100 letters to the editor printed in Oregon newspapers)

The issue for me is not whether I am for or against a particular issue (I am definitely against the TPP agreement. I would be happy to send Senator Wyden a letter to that effect, or authorize my name to such a letter written by somebody else who bundles names of individuals also in support, providing I approve of the tone and content of the message) Using our club name to represent all of its members in any such public announcement or correspondence implies that everybody in our club agrees with whatever has been written. I believe that disagreement within our club should be respected, not ignored, not demeaned.

If we go the pressure group route, we will lose membership. The makeup of the club would likely become more monolithic, less objective, more zealous. We could become a stove-pipe organization like Citizens Democracy Watch, whose members, in my judgment, reinforce each others’ viewpoints, frustrations, and need to communicate anger. I certainly witnessed that at Arnie Roblan’s town hall last May.

Grass-roots activism can be a lot of things. Indeed, our public officials need to know what each of us wants. Beating Democratic Party office holders over their heads with angry assertions and self-righteous declarations demonstrates, in my opinion, an intolerance toward any viewpoint different from one’s own, an arrogance that presumes that one is best qualified to determine the legislative decisions that one questions, and a nastiness akin to what we have witnessed of the Tea Party Right. Being courteous and respectful in our expressions of concern and opposition is vital. It is not a weakness. It is not submissiveness. Zealotry and rage are counter-productive.

Responses to My E-Mail

Wow. Harold. Thoroughly well said. This why you are a bonafide author. Maybe we need a purpose. Statement. One that is inclusive along the line stated below.

Arnie Roblan’s head staff member (2-2-2014)


Harold,

So far I have responded to two people who asked what was the purpose of our group, supporting like minded Democrats or a discussion group. I responded that the club was founded on the principle of electing democratic representation.

While I agree with you that we should sign as individuals to causes we feel strongly about, I would like to drop the issue now. I will not sign as chair of FADC on any letter to our representatives, I will sign and write letters that I am in agreement with as an individual. We are fast approaching the first primaries and need to focus our energies on the best approach to work with Dawn & Brad. I also was in communication with … [Roblan’s lead staff member] and thanked her for her contribution of a different perspective and the time she spent with us. Frankly I enjoyed the exchange .…

The current Chair (2-2-2014)


Well said Harold!

You are responding to something for which I am not in the loop. Sometimes
I wish I were an active dedicated FDC member, but something about it just
does not compel me enough. Sometimes I am frustrated that I don't know
what others are supporting, or whether they are aware of issues that might
benefit from their support.

But I sit here at my computer and do my best, and like, you, if the
groups that provide a format for me to sign, and I am on board with the
issue, how it is presented, etc. I will sign on.

Thank you for bringing this information.

A Member Who Would Be Very Critical of Me in 2016 (2-3-2014)


Harold, First, I want to thank you for your heart felt statements. Having said that I want to respectfully disagree with the premise of your communication. I believe it is our obligation to hold elected officials accountable for their actions or in actions, as the case may be. When I belong to an organization one of my obligations is to observe the rule that majority rule is the order. I don't believe you disagree. I agree with your comments about what we should not do to our Democratic office holders. I however would observe that if a majority of our members would agree on a subject that should be of interest to an elected official, we not only have the right but the obligation to communicate our positions. I really believe Harold that if you take away our ability to take positions on issues, we weaken our Club's usefulness. Harold, you are probably the best qualified to write letters to the editor but not all of our members have the same capability. Harold, on a personal note I want you to know that I respect your opinion very much, I just disagree with you on this subject.

A Member with Whom in Late 2012 I exchanged F-you’s because He Challenged How I Had Chosen to Conduct a Discussion and Resented My Curt Response (2-3-2014)


My Response to This Individual

Thank you, ..., for your response. I do believe there is very little (if anything) we disagree about. We should hold public officials accountable for the actions they take. If the majority of our members wish to do something, they should do it. Public officials should be informed of what their constituents believe and think. (You and I and … [another person] did that nearly 6 years ago) My concern is the manner in which Democratic Party officials are informed. With certain exceptions, most of them deserve, in my opinion, courtesy. And we should be open to hearing their points of view. I don’t want to see our organization become an “If you don’t agree with us, you’re the frickin’ enemy” type group. It’s that mind-set that bothers me. Least there by any misunderstanding, ,,, I want you to know that I respect your opinions just as much and if we have any disagreements (I’m not certain we do) I’m fine with that. (Why should I or any one individual get to determine who is wrong or right?)

Harold (2-3-2014)


From an Independent-Minded Member to the Chair Feb. 3, 2014

I agree with Harold's opinion on this topic:

1. 'Stove-pipe' style organizations have no credibility. Their correspondence rarely makes it to the desks of the real power brokers. Staff tosses it into the circular file first.

2. Real letters written by individuals carry (huge) actual weight: Conventional political wisdom has determined that one actual (properly written) business letter sent via U.S. Mail "speaks for" up to several thousand voters (depending on the density of the district).

The technique of getting that letter published in a newspaper, while simultaneously sending it under separate cover to the elected officials is the most effective means.…

A second, but still effective technique, is the writing of an actual personalized e-mail letter to the elected officials.

A distant third approach is the "signing on" of chain/organizational e-mails.

The absolute dead "loser" is anything resembling 'hate mail' from organizations tagged as stove-pipers.…

3. Civility is key. Any and all communication to elected officials has to adhere to conventional business protocols - or the message will be lost.

4. I also agree that the Democratic Club is, in fact, a club that honors diverse opinions, encourages education, and exists primarily for the purpose of electing Democrats to public office. In facilitation of this perspective, I read the club By-Laws - and I encourage all of us to do that before the next meeting. …

Let's brainstorm some broad policy commitments that can appeal to new voters and help build our Party.

From a Leading Club Member to the Chair February 3, 2014

I apologize for doing this over the internet, but I wanted to let all of you know at the same time that I am resigning from the FADC, both as an officer and as a member, for health reasons effective immediately.

The hate, anger and negativity that is being generated by … [the ex-chair and his wife and another member] is not something I want to be around. After Saturday, I could not stop thinking of what happened in January with the three of them and that fact that it is continuing and will continue as long as they are members. I did not sleep well Saturday night, waking up and thinking about what needed to be done and how we might change the tenor of the meetings. Sunday, I started getting another angina attack, and decided it was not worth it to me.

I am taking this year off from every stress I can possibly manage, and the FADC is one I don't need right now. I am sorry to leave you in a bind, but I will not put my health at risk. ...

… [The three members mentioned above] are poison to the club.


From the Ex-Chair to the New Chair February 3, 2014

I respectfully disagree with Harold's message to you regarding "What do we want the Club to be?" I think we should express our position on an issue to our legislators if there is membership consensus. We did so last year. If you remember, we sent a letter to Senator Merkley praising his support for and effort on filibuster reform.


The New Chair’s Response

That was a letter of praise and support. In my mind different in the tone and substance of HT message. I prefer the letters with as many signatures as possible rather than from the Chair or FADC. Also more in the tradition of our club.

(2-3-2014)


From a Member Friend to Harold Titus February 3, 2014

No, Harold, we want you just to be there,...and once in awhile on the sidelines, maybe to let us know when we break from our foundation. But,we want you there. I'm willing to ride this attempted "cout de tat'"? out, and we'll be a better club,when we're through it. I think when … [the zealot and his wife] can't take over the club, they'll find a place with the Citizen's Democracy Watch, where they belong. It's good for any project to take a good hard look at itself, and make sure it's on track, eh?


From a Good Friend and Former Chair to Harold Titus February 4, 2014

RE the club meeting;

… [The new chair] is learning ‘’The Impossible to Herd Cats, both genders, Syndrome’’ that was in strong evidence with … [the guy I had exchanged f-you’s with in 2012] starting off in full volume. …

...

Thirty members and some new younger blood is what we wanted for FADC, and our hope is to guide them when they appear to us to be too zealous.

That’s our job and you expressed it well.


From the Independent-Minded Member to the New Chair February 12, 2014

After a recent coffee, some of us came up with a thought that can help cut through the slow-downs at FADC:

Have people with their "important issues" come thirty minutes early before each meeting. They can congregate into their "mini-groups" (aka "committees" if necessary). They can have one person summarize their consensus on that issue and report to the whole FADC in a one minute presentation. Rather than "open up" the floor for time consuming commentary, the Chair can instruct members that they are free to contact each "summarizer" AFTER the meeting.

It will also have the net effect of removing the "obstructionist capacity" that has run rampant and allowed various individuals to try and turn the Club into a stove-pipe lobby group.


Frankly, to quote one of the coffee drinkers: "I am so sick of water district stuff and the GMO stuff....We need to help those folks help themselves in a venue that is appropriate to their personal cause(s)."

… I have heard this complaint from several of the Club's key members. It's time to clarify that we are NOT a lobby/stovepipe organization.

...

The coffee drinkers had a procedural thought on this topic: When people contact you basically demanding that you push their agendas onto the Club: Pause and simply suggest that they contact the members directly. That will give the rest of us the opportunity to decide whether or not we want to receive further communication from them.

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I wrote a long, boring letter in April that supported a liberal candidate to replace our district’s libertarian, incumbent county commissioner, Jay Bozievich. In September I wrote this letter in support of our replacement FADC chair, who was running for a position on the Florence city council.

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I am particular about whom in public office I want to represent me. I abhor discrimination. I detest exploitation. I want an honest, informed, strong-minded, empathetic person who values “the level playing field,” who sees injustices and works to eliminate them. I want to witness fairness. I want my public official to say by his actions: “This is who I am. This is what I believe. I will look for merit in opposing viewpoints. But I will not sacrifice my principles. Public service is my sole objective. If you agree with what I stand for, elect me. If not, don’t.”

Peter DeFazio and Jeff Merkley are such public officials. So also would be [the name of the person], running for Florence City Council.

... is a friend of mine. I met ... maybe six years ago when he and his wife moved to Florence. He lives down the street from me. He joined the Florence Area Democratic Club when I was its president [chair]. He immediately volunteered to become a Lane County Democratic Party precinct person. He served three years as our club treasurer. He is currently our president. I know well his political and societal values.

I also know how well he works with people. I have witnessed this during his tenure as president of our neighborhood homeowners association. He led us through two contentious years. He is soft-spoken, polite, well informed, open to others’ viewpoints, diligent, and forthright.

He rolled my garbage barrel up my driveway to its pick-up place in the street when my back went out.

I champion {his name] in his quest to serve on the City Council. I have no doubt that he would prove to be an excellent councilman.

        Printed September 24, 2014, in the Siuslaw News

Thursday, December 9, 2021

Letters, 2013, I Quit the FADC Part Two, May 8, May 23, November 2, November 21

 

Several days passed. I decided I would no longer be a member of the FADC. On May 8 I sent the following message to all of the club members and to the Citizens Democracy Watch leader who had hung the offensive signs on the library room’s walls. I also sent the message to Senator Roblan’s head staff member.

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Attached are my notes of Arnie Roblan’s town hall conducted May 4.

I feel compelled to address a few things that have bothered me considerably. Here goes.

I took my audio recorder to the town hall because I sensed I would need an accurate recording of what I thought might transpire. After experiencing the meeting, I knew I had to produce an accurate rendering of what was said. I put in a day and a half doing so, time I would much rather have spent doing things I want to do rather than dwelling on things that make me angry.

The older I get the more annoyed I become with people. We are a flawed species. All of us. I saw Saturday human weaknesses in friends, acquaintances, and people I hardly know or don’t know at all. Weaknesses that I know I am also guilty of. For instance:

knowing so much about a subject that you begin to think you are an expert and anybody who has a shade of difference of opinion has to be wrong,

being so strongly committed to an ideological point of view that anybody who isn’t as strongly committed is looked upon as the enemy, regardless of the fact that the individual has unselfishly devoted his time and energy for the benefit of us all in other areas -- areas that we all agree are important,

a tendency to interpret what a person says to corroborate our opinion of that person,

a tendency to value our own viewpoint so much that we won’t fairly consider a different viewpoint,

an unwillingness to tolerate somebody’s genuinely-held, opposing viewpoint after having considered it,

remembering what you think you heard (which is actually what you subconsciously wanted to believe you heard) rather than what was actually said.

For me, Saturday’s town hall was the ugliest of any town hall I have attended except for a DeFazio town hall in Coos Bay in 2010 when tea partiers had their say. I was especially offended by the signs that were put up over the windows and the one up front. You would have thought that Mitch McConnell was to be the speaker. These were signs put up by friends of mine! The message delivered was “FU, Roblan! You’d better wise up!” I also took them as “FU, Florence Area Democratic Club. We don’t care that you are sponsoring this event. We came in here to create a hostile environment to serve our purposes. Too bad.“

I saw too much of what I’m going to call “ideological intolerance.” God knows there is plenty of political behavior and dishonesty on the right and the selfish, criminal conduct of large corporations to be angry and intolerant about! I saw a man that I have followed and supported for 8 years, a man who genuinely desires to serve and benefit the broad public as he did school children first as a teacher and later as an administrator, a man who is diligent about listening to all sides of issues, who seeks to bring differing people together, a man who is not bought but who makes decisions based, after careful consideration, on his own assessment-making, a man who was remarkably patient over a standing, two-hour ordeal, made the target of ideological hostility.

So I have attached my rendering of what was said Saturday, as accurate as I could make it, soft voices, coughing, dropped voices at the ends of sentences, cross-talking, and rapid talking handicapping me. I hope you find it beneficial.

I’m absolutely weary of politics, what it does to people, and what it is doing to me. I don’t like becoming angry at people who carry on the necessary fight against conservative policies and greedy corporate rule. I don’t need that. You don’t, either. I’m stepping away from political activism. Ten years has been enough. Stepping away also means I’m leaving the FADC. Please know that I wish it good fortune and success.

Harold Titus

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I received some kind email message from friends.

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[Filed May 23]

WOW!!

Harold, I can understand your position as I get jaded with ‘friends’ turning out to be on the ‘wrong side’ and I had heard from others that feelings were running high over the GMO bill at the meeting.

The democrats have been getting scorched over the past 8 years just as much as the GOP, by people who are ‘independent’ and can swing with the tide. I’ve heard it for a long time.

I’ll settle down and read your recording and comment if appropriate.

Just wanted to you know I support your decision and agree it’s time to sit back and see what the hotheads can come up with.

It will be full of the ‘Unintended Consequences‘ I rail about because people can’t see all sides.

Enjoy more of your time with Janet and helping your family get set on the better path.

Please take care of you.

Jenny


Harold, please don't step away from the Florence Democrats. I was also disturbed by the signs, I came home and told Bernie when I saw Stew taking them down, I wondered if he had asked our group, permission to hang them.

Harold hang in there with a great, dedicated group. Let's talk soon. Lu


Thank you for taking the time and effort to attempt to bring clarity to a challenging situation. I appreciate you. I, also, am taking a few steps and three months away to consider how I can best helpfully contribute to various issues of mutual concern.

Thank you again, and I look forward to sharing a coffee in August....

Shalom, Mary


Harold - Thank you for this synopsis of the meeting that I could not attend. It's most helpful and I can just hear the discord that happened at that meeting. I'm sorry that you must leave the club. You've kept it going in the most respectful way - sorry that it isn't what happened Saturday.

Again, thanks, Nancy


Yes harold, I am sick of polotics and all that seems to drag along

with it but I'll read your commentary and notes in detail and give you
some of my thoughts of the general sad state of political affairs and
the many turn offs that go along with it. I will not be as explicit as
you since I have not been as deeply involved over the years as you.
Wish politics was an easy read (a little more like it has been in years
gone by) but it has become unrecognizable with the impregnated
crazyness that is now commonplace. Sad, very sad. Talk again with
you when I can settle in for a intelligent (?) response. Lou


Thanks for providing this, Harold. I’ve heard a few comments from others who attended. I’m usually sorry when I miss a meeting, but maybe not this one. Garry


Harold,I'm so sorry to hear we're losing you for good?I know I agreed with a few of the comments made by those who were confronting Arnie..but,I too was embarrassed and thought the CDW was overboard,even dictatorial.I had written an email to him,earlier that week,and said,even tho I,too fear the effects of Monsanto,and altered food,I respected his work and his opinion.Joanne Henderson is the most up in arms.I told her,they should have had an investigation into this matter with results on his desk a lot sooner than this. If we are to educate out statesman,we have to get up early in the morning to be ahead of the incoming corporate powers!I think alot of people are at the end of their rope,and I know we have a national pandemic of paranoia,everyone wants their issue out front.I will truly miss your comradry,friend.I think we'd better have one goodbye coffee for you and Jan.I think,too,that when Arnie stated,he'd have to leave after a few questions,that Hank should have picked up on that,and we'd have given a hand to Arnie,he could have taken leave,and THEN,the candidates for Port could have introduced themselves to us all.I hope Hank gets sharper,and our club lives on under Pat Reno's new design,but I'm not sure l,myself am very tired,as I have stated to you.Never thought I'd lose hope for democracy but,I'm borderline.Thankyou for all your good guidance,good jokes,your friendship.Sincerely,Wende


Dear Harold,

Sharon Stiles forwarded your email to me and I greatly appreciated your precise of the meeting. I too thought that Arnie was remarkably patient and forbearing.

I am saddened to hear that you're dropping out of active participation in local politics. You have been such a staunch defender of the good guys! I also find that as I get older, I have less and less patience for the follies of the human race. Thank you for all you've done for the local Democrats.

Annie


Harold,

Apologies for not following up with another phone call last week. I just wanted to thank you for getting the Roblan TH on paper, so I can try and follow what is going on. Since returning from our recent travel, I have talked to a few people on this Oregon seed issue. It (Monsanto and genetically modfied seeds) is obviously a huge subject, but I believe Arnie is being misunderstood, and a lot of people are "talking past each other".

Anyway, thanks again for your incredible way of talking straight!

Karin

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On November 2 I wrote for myself my existing thoughts about the May 4 town hall event.

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I had thought a bit about going to the meeting today and eventually decided not to. I would like to have heard the two speakers, one from Food Share and the other a candidate to oppose [County commissioner Jay] Bozievich next year. But, no. I’ll wait until January or February. Call me irrational or unforgiving or anything else but I cannot (will not) let pass … [the zealot’s] ideological intolerance.

I believe a person who serves as a true public servant, who strives to do what he considers right, who listens to all sides of issues, who makes his decisions based on what he considers fair and just, deserves to be respected. [The zealot] … disrespected Arnie Roblan. As the club’s chair he sent repeatedly to the club members email requests by anti-Monsanto organizations that citizens send messages to Arnie’s office demanding that he stop supporting SB633, a bill that would prohibit local municipalities and counties putting ballot measures up that if passed would regulate the use of GMO seeds. These email alerts were one-sided propaganda pieces designed to arouse public furor. Roblan was deliberately linked with Monsanto. I emailed … [the zealot] that I didn’t like what he was doing after he had forwarded the first email, but he continued doing it. At Arnie’s town hall May 4, … [the zealot] did not moderate the meeting, which caused Arnie to have to suffer listening to accusatory questions and condescending tutorials about GMO seeds all the while insulting signs put up by Citizens Democracy Watch looked down on the proceedings.

I’ve never inquired but I suspect that … [the zealot] probably knew about the signs to be put up and approved of their use. Whether this was true or not, he definitely was anti-Arnie. (As was his wife and at least two of the club members who attended) I’ve seen nothing in his excessive forwarding to members of email messages send by various activist organizations that indicates any moderation of his views or behavior. The bottom line is I am probably as angry today about what was done in May as I was then. (Also, having been the chair, I find fault in how he conducts meetings. How petty of me!) It makes no sense to me that I should sit through any of his meetings all the while angry)

According to the minutes of the last club meeting, … [the zealot] doesn’t intend to stay on as chair next year. If somebody (hopefully a person who respects different points of view) steps forward, then, yes, I’d consider coming back to be a passive member. I like most everybody in the club and miss seeing them. If nobody steps forward (a distinct possibility), then the club will cease to be.

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I wrote one letter to an editor of a newspaper during 2013 after the town hall meeting. It was printed November 21.

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The history of mankind has always been a tale of greed and lust for power versus promotion of the public good. You would think that the vast majority of ordinary citizens would value the latter objective when they make judgments about government policy. But no. Such is the power of media manipulation of fact and the GOP’s exploitation of humankind psychological hang-ups.

Case in point is Shari Parker’s letter to the editor Nov. 18. Living in the manufactured Republican/Fox News bubble, she gives us hackneyed GOP talking points: Obama is inexperienced, he is a liar, we need a business person to be president, “Obamacare” adds to (not subtracts from) the national deficit, we already have “the best health care system in the world,” and government should leave us alone.

She comments: “It’s a travesty that we’re saddling our children and grandchildren with a debt that can only impact their lives negatively.” Debt is not our problem. Humongous income inequality and the reasons for it are the problem. Debt is a smoke screen, an excuse to abandon responsibility to meet societal needs that would necessitate the rich having to pay increased taxes.

My concern for everybody’s grandchildren stems from corporate America’s continued pollution of our air (carbon emissions especially) and water (spills, dumping of waste, fracking) and the poisoning of our food (Monsanto, etc.) and the ultimate consequence of corporate, GOP misinformation and greed: human extinction (irreversible global climate change).

Printed November 21, 2013, in the Register-Guard



Sunday, December 5, 2021

Letters, 2013, I Quit the FADC Part One, April 10, April 19

 

The zealot that was our Democratic Club chair was now forwarding to all club members brief email attacks on our state senator Arnie Roblan, messages spread on the internet by special advocacy groups like Food Democracy Now, determined to thwart Monsanto Corporation’s attempts to force upon independent-minded farmers its genetically modified seeds.

Here is information (provided by Snopes.com) that you need to know to understand better the issue that caused such criticism of Roblan and the events that took place at Roblan’s town hall event May 4.

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On 26 March 2013, President Obama signed into law a bill passed by the House and Senate earlier that month known as the “Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013” to provide funding for various federal agencies through the end of the 2013 fiscal year. One of the provisions included in that bill in the section for “Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and related agencies” was Section 735, variously dubbed the “Farmer Assurance Provision” or the “‘Monsanto Protection Act,” an inclusion which reignited a clash between the agribusiness industry and food safety groups. The former maintain that the Farmer Assurance Provision prevents activists from manipulating the court system to force farmers to abandon or destroy genetically modified (GMO) or genetically engineered (GE) crops that have already received U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) safety approval; the latter assert that Congress kowtowed to big business by sneaking into an appropriations bill a provision that allows large biotech companies like Monsanto to do an end run around the court system and avoid legitimate legal challenges to the safety of their products.

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The provision directs the Secretary of Agriculture to grant temporary deregulation status to allow growers to continue the cultivation of biotech crops that had previously been approved by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) while legal challenges to the safety of those crops are underway, and it prevents courts from interceding in the review process — a situation which critics contend unconstitutionally bars the court system from taking part in ensuring the safety of food products.

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Dozens of food and consumer groups opposed the provision on the grounds that it was unnecessary and undermined the judiciary’s authority to regulate the growing of genetically engineered crops.

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The provisions of this bill (including the “Monsanto Protection Act”) were originally to remain in effect for six months, until the end of the fiscal year on 30 September 2013. The bill was later extended to expire on 15 December 2013 (Mikkelson 1-3).

Work cited:

Mikkelson, Fred. “Monsanto Protection Act.” snopes.com, updated September 13, 2013. net. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/monsanto-protection-act/

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Fireworks were set off in Oregon when the state senate passed a bill (SB633) that opponents dubbed the “Oregon Monsanto Protection Act.”

“SB 633 appears to be in response to local efforts to protect farmers and consumers from genetically modified (GM) foods. …

“Efforts in Jackson County have led to a measure on the ballot for May 2014 that will let voters decide if they want to ban GM crops in the county, and people in Benton County have been working on a community rights initiative to protect the heritage and vegetable seed industry there. GMO Free Oregon has discussed putting forth a similar measure in Lane County. …

“Melissa Wischerath and Mary Beth Williams of the newly formed, Eugene-based Center for Sustainability Law are concerned about SB 633. Wischerath says the bill is based on corporate-funded American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) proposed legislation from 2007.

“Williams says a Monsanto attorney came to Oregon to testify for the bill. She says that the vague language in the bill that calls for regulation of seeds and “products of agricultural seed, flower seed, nursery seed and vegetable seed” to be done by the state could lead to local governments not being able to do simple things like dealing with invasive species and could ban county-funded local food initiatives. …” (Mortensen 1-2).

Work cited:

Mortensen, Camilla. “Will Oregon Protect Monsanto?” Eugene Weekly, May 16, 2013. Net. http://www.eugeneweekly.com/2013/05/16/will-oregon-protect-monsanto/

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A biased description of SB633 and why and how it came about is provided by Common Dreams.”

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Last week, SB 633, a bill that strips all local control of agricultural seed and seed production and replaces it with a “one size fits all” policy dictated by the state passed out of the Rural Communities and Economic Development committee by a vote of 3 to 2 in favor. SB 633, known as Oregon’s Monsanto Protection Act, earned the support of the committee Chair, Arnie Roblan (D-Coos Bay) whose office has cited the passage of Section 735, known as Monsanto Protection Act, of H.R. 933, as justification of the dangerous new seed preemption bill that is now awaiting a full vote on the Oregon Senate floor.

Under current Oregon law, local citizens have the right to make democratic decisions concerning local agricultural practices and Oregon’s Monsanto Protection Act is seen as a corporate handout to agribusiness to protect biotech seed and chemical monopolies like Monsanto, DuPont and Syngenta from the growing number of American farmers and citizens who have become concerned about the flaws of genetically engineered crops and the undemocratic lobbying method these giant multinational companies use to deceptively garner growth in the marketplace.

"Barely two weeks after sneaking into U.S law, the Monsanto Protection Act is being cited as an example to strip Oregon’s family farmers of their basic democratic rights," said Dave Murphy, founder and executive director of Food Democracy Now! "By siting Section 735, better known as the Monsanto Protection Act, as a reason to subvert the citizen-led ballot initiative process, Oregon Senators have proven that the Monsanto Protection Act is a part of a well-coordinated effort by Monsanto and the biotech industry to undermine simple protections from GMO crops that a growing number of farmers and citizens across the U.S. are demanding."

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Oregon’s Monsanto Protection Act is a direct attempt to silence farmers critical of genetically engineered crops who are looking for a reasonable democratic solution to protect their organic and non-GMO seed supply from genetic contamination.

In an effort to protect local agriculture and farmer’s economic livelihoods, on January 2nd of this year, GMO-Free Jackson County, led by a local farmer, submitted nearly 6,500 signatures to get a ban on genetically engineered crops on the ballot. The initiative will appear on the ballot May 2014, if not sooner and Monsanto, Syngenta and other biotech seed companies are working behind the scenes to make sure that SB 633 strips Oregon residents of their right to make local agricultural decisions at the county level.

According to Oregon farmers, SB 633 is a thinly veiled attempt to silence the growing concern over genetically engineered foods and gut all county efforts to address the real problems that growing GMO crops can have on seed purity and the economic livelihoods of family farmers.

Last week Senator Roblan was joined by Herman Baerschiger (R-Grants Pass) and Betsy Close (R-Albany) in voting in favor of SB 633. The bill must now be assigned to a committee in the House and then be voted on by both chambers of the Oregon legislature.

This vote comes barely two weeks after Congress passed the Monsanto Protection Act and President Obama signed it into law, over the objections of more than 300,000 Food Democracy Now! members who signed a letter to Obama and Congress to the stop the provision from becoming law. Now in Oregon, state senators are hiding behind the precedent of the Monsanto Protection Act undermining efforts in Jackson County to pass a countywide ban on GMO crops, a ballot initiative that qualified for the May 2014 ballot (Food 1-3).

Work cited:

Food Democracy Now. “Monsanto Protection Act” Spreads to Oregon in New Bill Passed That Will Ban Local Control over Food and Farms.” Common Dreams, April 18, 2013. Net. https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2013/04/18/monsanto-protection-act-spreads-oregon-new-bill-passed-will-ban-local-control

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I was not aware of the federal legislation nor the proposed state legislation. I was seeing messages spread across the internet mostly by Food Democracy Now lambasting Arnie Roblan courtesy of the current Florence Area Democratic Club (FADC) chair. Here are two examples.

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Unfortunately. Senator Arnie Roblan (D-Coos Bay) and other senators in the Rural Communities and Economic Development committee are determined to do the bidding of biotech seed and chemical giants Monsanto, DuPont and Syngenta by working to pass a law that pre-empts local county authority over seeds and seed production.

--- posted April 10

Already, Monsanto’s lobbyists are crawling through the Oregon capital trying to

round up votes before the truth can come out publicly that they’re working

overtime to undermine America’s basic democratic rights once again. But we

won't let them get away with it.


Ominously, the Monsanto Protection Act, Section 735 of the continuing

resolution, H.R. 933, that passed last month in Washington DC and prompted

endless controversy is now being cited as supporting evidence for the Oregon seed preemption bill.


In an email to an Oregon constituent from Senator Arnie Roblan (D-Coos Bay)

the bill’s chief sponsor and chair of the committee that the bill just passed out of, makes clear he’s doing the bidding of Monsanto and the biotech seed industry.

– posted April 19

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Arnie Roblan and the FADC had been close allies since 2004 when he ran for state representative. Both of us having been educators, he and I had a natural regard for each other. Over the years he frequently appeared before our club to provide information about legislative bills. I always wrote and sent synopses of his presentations to our club members, a practice that he appreciated. During election years I always commended him in letters I wrote to the local and Coos Bay newspaper editors. We had similar values. He valued all my efforts on his behalf; I appreciated how he served his constituents. The assertion by Food Democracy Now! that he was a creature of Monsanto was both offensive and absurd, and our clueless, zealot chair was enthusiastically promoting it.

We were to hold our next club meeting on May 4. When the zealot had replaced me as chair in January, I vowed to myself that I would not advise him how to do any aspect of the job. I would do so on request, but I wanted to respect his independence. I knew that the May 4 town hall meeting at the local library began at 1 p.m. That was the time that the library opened. I arrived about ten minutes early, and already a crowd was waiting in the hallway outside the library’s rooms. Roblan was also waiting. No chairs had been set up inside the room where he was to speak. I had to alert one of the librarian’s inside her office to unlock the door to where we were suppose to gather, and, hastily, I, the chair, and several other people arranged the chairs.

While we were doing this, one of the leaders of Citizens Democracy Watch, a very progressive group not a part of but an ally of the FADC, started putting up along the walls of the room very large signs attacking Monsanto and demanding that Roblan reverse himself. His facial expression indicated apprehension. We, the FADC, were the sponsors of the event. He hasn’t gotten the permission of the library to do this, I thought, or permission from us! I wanted to tear the signs down.

At most all of the town halls that the club had sponsored, I, the chair, had introduced the speaker and afterward chosen whom in the audience to recognize to ask questions. Our chair introduced Senator Roblan and then took a seat in the audience. Roblan had to select the questioners. A majority of the questions asked were in varying degrees hostile. He had nobody to step in to tone things down or to admonish. At least three people gave tutorials – each at least 5 minutes in length – information about GMOs and Monsanto Corporation as if Roblan had no clue about either. I would have stopped each person after 30 seconds with the reminder, “What is your question?” and if receiving push back, “People came here to here Seantor Roblan speak, not any one of us.” Senator Roblan was facing a tough crowd, and our chair, I was certain, was reveling in it.

I audio taped the meeting, so what I have written below is not based on memory.

On the issue of SB633 and Monsanto seeds Senator Roblan made these points.

“When I make a final decision, it is based on what I believe is the right thing to do for Oregonians.”

“When people actually talk to each other, and listen to each other, surprising things happen.”

SB 633 is about seeds, not GMOs, is about “who has the responsibility for deciding and making the statues and rules regarding the growing of different kinds of seeds” in Oregon.

The ballot measure sponsored by people in Jackson County would “preempt the use of any GMO seeds” there. “Not one county in the state of Oregon wants this responsibility.” They “believe it will bankrupt them” if passed. “We have another law in the state that is called Right to Farm.” It “gives farmers the rights that they need to do the common practices of being a farmer.”

He talked to scientists at Oregon State and Portland State and other people and asked, “Who has the expertise to make those kinds of decisions?” The answer he got was “Probably the best is the federal government: they have more scientists than anybody else. Next would be the Department of Agriculture; that’s part of their job.” Who has the expertise? Arnie was told, “Probably, right now, not many. It’s a fairly new industry.” The place that has the best chance of making good decisions … is the Department of Agriculture. “Now we need to fund them, which we haven’t done very well.” Woefully underfunded.

Two major industries looked at the bill and said, “Oh my gosh, they are going to start regulating our seeds, county by county, 36 counties?”

Nursery Associations: “We think we have genetically engineered plants that we grow and sell all over and we’re kind of concerned now what we’re going to do with this.”

Forest Industry: “We’re doing a lot of stuff now with our trees that are growing and … we don’t think that having this regulated” is good.

Obama just signed a bill that prevents some of this GMO from being regulated. “There is a lot of stuff happening on this issue. To have it decided county by county made absolutely no sense to me.”

“In the valley we have a penning system for most of our seed production that allows people to know within two or three miles who else is growing whatever, so that we can avoid the conflicts that happen.”

“If you do the science and pen so that they are away from each other, do other kinds of things to prevent it, you don’t get that problem.”

“With respect to the long-term viability of this agricultural industry, … I think it [SB633] is the right thing for our state to do. People can differ with that. I’ll gladly hear from other people who show me examples about where it’s been a problem.”

“When I get frustrated in elections and this kind of stuff, [it’s because] the same people who are really anti-bullying employ bullying techniques.”

A number of questions that were asked were about subjects other than GMO seeds: guns, education, coal trains, mental health, forestry, industrial farms. The following is representative of a greater amount of argumentation that occurred between critics in the audience and the Senator.

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GMO drift doesn’t stop at two-and-a-half miles.

Roblan: Monsanto has won few lawsuits about farmers using their seeds that drifted onto the farmers’ properties. “I understand the concerns … I think we are more frightened than we need to be.”

Scientists are being bought and sold by Monsanto. Cattle being fed chips of corn foreign to the bodies of the cattle that are laced with antibodies. Cattle should be grass-fed. We are poisoning ourselves. Monsanto is making trees that are resistant to bugs but are killing all the trees around them. We are in trouble. Our planet is in trouble.

Roblan: “I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I don’t agree with the indiscriminate spraying of pesticides. Most farmers out there are using the least amount that they can. ..[interruption] More pesticides may be coming into our water systems from our urban areas than ever come from our farms. [interruption] If we ban them, we have to be prepared to acknowledge that a whole lot of people in the world are going to die of starvation.

“But that’s not true.” Somebody else jumped in. “People farm for themselves in other countries. Monsanto and other companies took over their lands.”

Roblan: “I’ll get some other books to read on that one, but I will guarantee you right now if we only had organic farming and no pesticides in this world there would be a major loss of life in this world and poor people would be the ones that would take the biggest brunt of it.

[Somebody else spoke.] “The problem with Monsanto is that they prescribe the seed … that are not viable the next year. [voice became too soft to hear well] … The Department of Agriculture does not look at independent studies.” They look at Monsanto and similar GMO studies. The Department of Agriculture is headed up by a former Monsanto official. The reason Obama signed that bill was because it was on the tail-end of the appropriations bill to keep the government running. He didn’t want that in there. Obama said that if any changes are to happen in this country, it has to come from the grass roots. People have a right to organize and to say what they need. “SB633 undermines home rule. It is essentially favoring the farmers that want to plant GMO. It takes away the right completely of other farmers that [couldn’t make out what was said].” In Mendocino County in California they passed a GMO ban that was quite successful. “If you take the right of protest and the right of organizations and the right of making change away from the people who are not doing GMOs, then you are just cutting them off at the knees.”

Roblan: “I understand your position. I don’t necessarily agree. … There are other ways in which laws can be important. If you have drift of your pesticides on other people’s farms, … you will have to pay for that. I look at this group here. 40 years ago most of us would not be here. We wouldn’t live this long. If you look historically at our country to other countries, our food production and safety is better than most every country in the world. I understand people’s belief structures around organic [mumbled words]. I keep asking for studies that show me. Show me the studies that show it’s going to be a problem and not going to be a problem. I will continue to read the [?] from everyone.”

[Another person] Talking about seeds sounds very benign, but how those seeds are altered in a way to resist some of the pesticides, ”the only reason that is being done – we are killing ourselves, hurting ourselves … only to kill weeds.” The person continues a tutorial giving information about farmers’ use of stronger pesticides to eradicate more pesticide-resistant weeds, cross-pollination, drift, storage of unused chemicals, the European Union 2-year ban on pesticides that apparently are killing bees, the EPA looking at the effects on children’s brain development because of use of pesticides around schools. At this point several people in the audience declared that they wanted other people to have the opportunity to speak and ask questions.

Another person spoke.

You mentioned earlier that there is no science regarding GMOs.

Roblan: “No, there was science.”

Okay, you went to Oregon State. They didn’t know …

Roblan: “I said, they’re saying that the fears that people have are not founded enough in science. Because there is science that’s been done.”

Money going into the colleges is not supporting science. It’s not supporting the research and development. The governor is not supporting it. The federal government is not supporting it. All the money we suspend for growing our children are also growing our society now seems to be going to different places, mostly corporations.

Roblan: “I agree that corporations don’t pay what I think they should pay. … What I’m saying is, I want reputable science. So I don’t care if Monsanto does it, or if the University of Oregon does it, or whoever.” I want to see how they did it “and I take that same science and I can replicate it over here and I get the same results. If you can’t do that kind of science, then I don’t think it is real science. … So I don’t care if Monsanto does it, and I don’t care if the University of Oregon does it. For me, it’s show me the science. And then let’s make some decisions about it.

Another person, with a low voice, hard to decipher: “None of the science that they’re putting out there … [something about genetic change, “GMO stuff “]

Roblan: “One thing I will say about science. They don’t ever really have the final answer. … Their answer is, ‘Here’s the best we know now. Give us some more time and we’ll tell you the next thing is. I agree.

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I immediately left the room after the town hall had concluded. I was furious, not because I believed that accusations leveled at Monsanto were not true but because Senator Roblan had been accorded so little respect.